
Now I'm not a judgmental type, but does Hot Topic really want to leave in their model's junkie trackmarks?
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Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Hot Topic: You're So Vein
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now that's just gross... it looks like the fake scar puddy you get in those cheap halloween costume kits.
Oh yeah, and it's not a PsD, it's a lack of Ps... blah blah blah.
It looks like a burn scar or birthmark. What's the big deal?
I agree, probably a birth mark.
I guess the big deal is that it looks bad and they should have "fixed" it.
Sometimes the biggest PSD is not using PS at all!
wv: seuron
It looks like a partly-healed scar.
wv:cheme
this site has the most entertaining verification system!
Your as bad as my mother. Track marks" are caused by scarring and look like the worst case of veracious veins you have ever seen.
Maybe she just had a blood test for swine flu?
I'd say it's a bruise. She's probably into restraints.
Wow. PSD are insisting that we airbrush our models into "perfect" specimens? Scraping the barrel much? Come on guys, I know you can do better.
Yeah, it looks like a thumbprint bruise to me, which would tend to indicate that she's anemic. Once again, I find myself wanting to buy these models a sandwich.
Just look at the catalogue. This is an old scar or something. It's quite clear on other pictures of the same model.
It almost looks fake to me, like it was added on purpose. Why, I don't know. It also looks like she has scratch (Cut?) marks a little above her elbow.
fake scar and lack of PS d(^.^)
it's called scarification. it's done on purpose. http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Scarification_FAQ
that doesn't really bother me. Looks like a birthmark. and this is NOT a Photoshop disaster, guys.
The vest is edgy, so why not stay in the same vein and not PS the scar.
Who wants perfect?
It may be a natural scar, but the point is that it's the first thing I see and I stare RIGHT AT IT. While I agree with Mel about airbrushed models, the image is supposed to advertise style, not druggies. At least that's what this image inadvertently does. So in this case, PsD should have been used.
@Domo Kun:
Are you serious?
Did you even bother to take a look at the link you posted?
That is absolutely NOT scarification (not even if she was going for the "my-little-brother-pinched-me-really-hard" look).
It's the opposite of a PsD: It's a lack of Photoshop disaster!
But you make a good point. No matter what that is, trackmark or birthmark or "curling iron burn" *cough* someone should have brushed it out.
Wow. Haha. Is a failure to use Photoshop a Photoshop disaster? I dunno, this is still fun. And ironic. :D
Pretty sure that's just an old scarification.
wv: cogit
People don't seem to understand that the point of modeling is to sell clothes. If all the potential customer can look at is the model's bizarre scar/birthmark/tracks, then clothes aren't being sold. If the ad isn't selling the clothes, it's a bad ad. And if the ad could have been selling the clothes if only they used a bit of Photoshop, and they didn't, it's a PsD.
Certainly not a PSD! If this blog is suddenly about pointing out the flaws on the models, just cause the photographer or graphic designer chose NOT from clone it away, then the blog all of the sudden went from "necessary and amusing" and all the way over to the other wing, suddenly sharing categoies with "british tabloid" and the like...
I guess, in this case, less isn't more.
"then clothes aren't being sold" ...uhh, if you're not buying clothes because of a physical mark on a model, you should probably re-evaluate your priorities. I think it's beautiful. It's just a small reminder that says "hey, I'm real. I'm human. I have a life and a rich history."
P.S.
PsD... low blow. This post sucked.
Maybe she's so hardcore she got a tattoo of a track mark. Or, if she's a typical Hot Topic shopper, she's a cutter.
Honestly? I show at hot topic, and seeing that mark is not gonna keep me from buying the clothes, if I'm shopping for a top. It looks like an old burn scar, it's not high enough on her arm to be track marks.
Normally I won't vote against the PSDs, but in this case I think you're really reaching.
"Have you seen a truly awful piece of Photoshop work? Clumsy manipulation, senseless comping, lazy cloning and thoughtless retouching are our bread and butter. And yes, deep down, we love Photoshop."
This is not your bread and butter, this is posting for lack of something better to post.
The only disaster here is that it got posted here.
Check out this view of the same girl:
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/FashionTops/Red-Splatter-Grommet-Top-230443.jsp
Looks like an arm peircing that is infected. (my brother got one once..apparently few shops will do it because of the risks).
I think you should've posted the cover of that magazine...Veja, that someone linked in a comment in the last post. Now THAT was an epic psd.
My sister can do that.
WV: watring
I'm no expert, but wouldn't track marks be in the bend of the elbow, not halfway down the forearm?
Whatever it is - that's NOT a trackmark.
Licensed phlebotomist here, I've drawn blood from hundreds of junkies and that is not a junkie arm.
Verify before you type, m'kay?
"I'm not a judgmental type" but making comments about someone's scars is pretty disgusting.
Second phlebotomist here - def. not track marks.
Shooting that low on the arm would just be making things unnecessarily difficult anyways - esp. since she doesn't have prominent veins to begin with.
Looks like a burn scar!!!
Regards,
retouching
so, this is the one time we complain about too LITTLE photoshop...
It's just a scar or a birthmark in the opinion of this doctor. It isn't even in a place you would usually use to inject i.v. drugs. What's the big deal?
So now it's a disaster because it's NOT photoshopped ?
it looks like either a scar or a birthmark. trackmarks are very different from that.
That's fucking hilarious.
Sorry to be the negative type, but not photoshopping something out doesn't constitue as a PSD (well, its your site so I guess you make the rules, but you know what I mean). This is a print disaster, editing disaster, casting disaster ... but its in no way whatsoever a photoshop disaster :/
Thats like calling someone with a really ugly face a plastic-surgery disaster cause they didnt get surgery :/
I bought the scar - it was discounted if you paid for a skull candle and some thigh length boots with it.
Very satisfied customer.
it kinda suit the clothes she's wearing, dont ya think? Like punk rock kinda style.
PSD suddenly took a leap over to become like moviemistakes.com, nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking, not that there actually is an error.
It's the virgin mother!
1. It's from Hot Topic - a punk/alternative/grunge clothes-store.
2. They use models that fit their profile.
3. That's definitely not trackmarks - as others have pointed out, it looks more like a bruise or infection from a body-piercing gone awry.
4. If it WAS trackmarks, who cares? It would probably fit right into the style of the store (even though it seems a bit too "clean" for it).
5. Do you REALLY think any punk/alternative youngster would care even a LITTE BIT about it if they see the bruise? Nope, not at all.
So, it might have looked better if they photoshopped it out, but then again, they would have photoshopped a perfectly okay picture - me, I prefer stores that just go "ah, that doesn't matter, it's about the clothes, not the model's arm".
NOT a PsD. Except on the part of the PsD-blog. Cause this is a fail, if any.
Also... "Now I'm not a judgmental type, but" ?
Dude, you totally are.
I'm gonna have to agree with chrisr on this one: that looks like a thumb-print scar or restraint scar. Things must have gotten a bit rough the night before the photoshoot.
Not really a PsD but what's wrong with being judgmental anyway?
That's not a PSD.
THIS is a PSD:
http://hostourcoast.com/submission.cfm?v=4FDAE3A2-3048-71C2-17DBB62921713DFD&c=1
Oh cripes, I almost bought that top, but then I didn't due to lack of sufficient room for boobies.
I agree with Mel! I am upset that this image has been posted here to be picked on. Apparently they didn't tart this model out enough to be "attractive." It's cruel to make fun of the things that make us human. It certainly wasn't in the spirit of this blog for this image to be posted.
You can argue all day about whether or not this image should have been touched up to better sell the clothes (and the woman), but I would argue that this photo has no reason to be on a blog called "Photo Shop Disasters."
@ The Pirate
that was really gay.
"hey, I'm real. I'm human. I
have a life and a rich history"
Why would they shop her face so much and then leave her arm that way?
No matter what it is, it is still hottopic trying to sell some sort of pseudo"bad ass" appeal.
So, take time to shop up the face to look like every other model, but leave the bruise/burn/track-mark/whatever.
Makes about as much sense as the rest of their idiotic marketing ploy.
In this photo: http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/FashionTops/Red-Splatter-Grommet-Top-230443.jsp
It looks more like a deliberate scarification, maybe an "s." It's certainly not a thumbprint bruise.
Perhaps the PSD in the current pic was blurring the design.
wv:romemble
A lack of photoshop is a disaster? It's just a scar.
It's not even in the right place if it were "track marks." Effing morons.
So what if an alt model has a bruise/scar?
haha best non-disaster disaster so far
If the art of photoshop is knowing how and when to use it, this is a PsD. Or a makeup disaster. Either way, it looks shoddy.
Verfication: Ogylat, which is my new favourite word.
Wow. Defenitely no PS disaster. Not even a try to hide the human side of a model. And for that she ("junkie") and the company gets bashed here. It was a long way from real good PSD to "look, they show real humans, isn't that awful!?". But you have managed it. Shame on you.
So I check in for the first time in weeks... and you're complaining that a bruise or birthmark was *not* PS'ed out on a model that's working for a supposedly edgy store?
Weak.
Hot Topic is fake edgy, but at least give them props for keeping the models real.
I agree with girlrat.
It's Hot Topic. Where else would a self-harmer go to buy their off-the-peg rebelliousness?
I take back what I said before - I burned my skull candle near my new scar and it melted!
Took it back and got a wet look corset. Doeas my bum look big in this?
I usually enjoy this blog, but this post is bigoted and frankly, disgusting. She has a scar on her arm. It's not a track mark. Your implication is bigoted and you should be ashamed.
They fixed the image on Hot Topic.
PSD is joking sarcastically about such a thing and you all to flare up about it... l o l.
HAHAHA they DID fix the image!!! obviously it IS a big deal... or WAS anyway.
Yea, hot topic is fake edgy. i can't stand that store, but it does make for good costuming in photographs.
WV: inisi
Here is a PSD on hot topic:
I believe these two people are the same... or at least once were
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/Tanks/Web-Double-VNeck-Tank-Top-239799.jsp
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/Tanks/Turquoise-Zebra-Double-V-Tank-Top-241872.jsp
Why put images of the same model right next to one another when they look almost completely different!?
It's refreshing something like this got left in.. I personally am tired of seeing models airbrushed within an inch of their pixels. I prefer to see a human... not a mockup.
Some of the comments in here are just an echo as to how you have been controlled by the media and lost your own sense of what you think is beautiful and have to be told... you have my pity.
Sure some people who post here don't read they own comment, or else they wasn't gonna post such silly stuff.
"It's refreshing something like this got left in.. I personally am tired of seeing models airbrushed within an inch of their pixels. I prefer to see a human... not a mockup."
WTF???
So its ok to airbrush 99% of the person and left just one ugly stuff?
HELL NO!
This only make the work bad. If you want to see some ugly girl selling cloths its ok to me, this scar/whatever don't even bother me, but if you gonna winne because you liked this piece just because after remake all the body and face they forgot a pankake on her arm you think this is beautiful and humam.. geez...
Nikki!!!! OMG you're right!!! that's totally another PSD on hot topic.
Gadzooks what are things coming to?!
They fixed it.
Interesting. I wonder if the Righteous Warriors here who got so indignant will apologize to PsD.
I thought Apple fans were a bunch of whiners. (and I am an Apple fan, so no hating on me, just stating the truth)
Oh and fake trendy or not, they had some boss jeans and shoes, so I placed an order.
@ Owretchedman
And that was really bigoted.
What do you even mean? Awesome? Radical? Free-thinking? IMHO, gay isn't a pejorative.
Just want to point out that being judgemental about models having physical blemishes is not the same as being judgemental about ordinary people. They're models. It's their JOB to look perfect (and the job of photographers, makeup artists, etc. to assist).
Look again, it's been airbrushed out now.
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/Tripp-Black-Grommet-Chain-Corset-Vest-239256.jsp
I guess Hot Topic didn't want people to think their models have track marks, even though it's only a scar and nothing else.
wv: raverspo ?
She may or may not be a junkie, but that's not a track mark. I used to be a substance abuse counselor. Trust me--not track marks. Nice use of slander (or is it liable when it's in print), thought? :)
I am flabbergasted by the number of people who thought the "Track marks" comment was serious. PsD is a snark blog, a very sarcastic one at that. When have the comments ever been serious?
As for whether it's a disaster or not - as a few people have mentioned already the purpose of a clothing model is to display the clothing, and to be as "perfect" as possible. Bruises like this are indeed distracting and detract from the purpose of the image. The fact that we're all here yammering and nitpicking about that proves it. Has one person here mentioned the shirt she's attempting to promote?
I don't know about Hot Topic, but Torrid (which is owned by Hot Topic) uses local people or their own staff as models, rather than professional models. I'm not surprised she doesn't look model perfect, but I do agree that whatever that is on her arm distracts you from the thing they're trying to sell.
None of you are the target audience for Hot Topic, so your opinions of what's "gross" and distracting on a Hot Topic model really don't matter. Torrid doesn't airbrush their models super-thin, because their customers aren't thin.
My 15-year-old niece and nephew are gloomy, "edgy", "gothy" teens who love Hot Topic... and they think the idea of showing a "flaw" on a model is pretty cool. I guess this "disaster" did it's job.
Before criticizing something, stop being so self-important and consider if it's even meant for you. Not everything is.
they photoshopped the picture now. they probably saw this post.
From what I know about Hot Topic's brand, it seems like they wouldn't mind having models that have ambiguously drug-doing visual cues because their target audience would think it's 'cool.'
they've since edited the picture on the website
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Apparel/Tops/Tripp-Black-Grommet-Chain-Corset-Vest-239256.jsp
Suddenly you're about picking on some person (yes, she is a person by the way) and blowing up their defect. Snarky? No, that's just nasty. As for the suggestion that we're all talking about it because it' SO noticeable...no, we are talking about it because you blew it up to several times and drew attention to it!
dopes not shot there homies.
That is a keloid scar. Most people with keloid scars do all they can to hide them, because they are big and weird looking and don't look at all like normal scars (and people like JR call them "gross'). I say kudos to the model for baring it and kudos to Hot Topic for showing it.
ARGH! Why is this post still on here? Remove it goddammit, Admit that you were wrong this one time. We wont look down on you for a single mistake! But we will if you don't remove this. It's not a PSD!
@ brundlefly76
Second phlebotomist here - def. not track marks.
Shooting that low on the arm would just be making things unnecessarily difficult anyways
I'm not a phlebotomist, but I am a junkie, so I feel qualified to say that people totally shoot lower down on the arm. That isn't an example of track marks, true, but not because of the location, just because track marks don't look like that.
Wow you guys are really talking a lot of smack....
*cough*
It's gone now
Lolz, when I checked the site, they PS'ed the trackmark out.
The people giving "kudos" to Hot Topic for "keeping it real" here are ignoring the fact that Hot Topic is a brand completely devoted to manufacturing a contrived and ham-fisted sense of rebellion and "edginess". They aren't "real" in any sense of the word.
Also, I agree with everyone about the scar taking focus away from the product you're trying to sell. By all means let her be a model, she's fine otherwise. If you want people to actually pay attention to your clothes, however, then they'd best do a little touch-up in Ps. No harm in it.
It's definitely gone, whatever.
okay first of all i think all of you should shut the fuck up.
second of all, no one is perfect and no one has a perfect body, she may have an unattractive scar, but it was from her past and she regrets having it every day. she is a good friend of mine, and nicer than any of you little fuck faces. face it, all of you that are saying shit are ugly as hell and in order to make you feel beautiful for once, you have to cut down the first person you see, grow up. and maybe they didn't hide it, because Hot Topic is smart and loving enough, unlike you dumbfucks to except a person for who they are and not what they look like. complaining NEVER gets you anywhere. oh and at least she has something to do with her life, what are you like 20-45 year old people who do nothing but sit at a computer on your fat asses all day? i bet your all pedifiles and nasty assed, gross looking freaks, if anyone is ugly and should not be looked at, its you. i wish photo shop could hide your fucking attitudes, ooh but i guess it can't because your all a bunch of dirt and you can't hide dirt, without getting messy. she is a nice girl, and your lucky she isn't sueing your asses right now. because the freedom of speech on google. it was very offensive and uncalled for. before you post something about someone-making fun of the person, look in the mirror and try calling yourself perfect. you may be beautiful on the outside and whatnot but whenever i(and her other close friends) read this page on my friend, i see what you really are inside and out and that is heartless and cold. thank you whoever was defending her. she is a hard worker and an amazing friend. and i better not see anymore of this shit, or i will have to contact the authorities. Also have to talk to her manager, who also has my back on this...and i really don't want to do that, could you all please just try and not be so stone hard cold?
thanks
Meadow Gates
look at the origional now.. it is fixed lol
Thats a burn scar. A really bad one. A chick I went to school with had her entire right arm covered in third degree burn scars. They were awful, and lumpy like that one is.
My first thought was actually that it looked fake too... And that would be something very typical of Hot Topic to do, and would be a disaster because it LOOKED fake.
But, I'm not sure.
Lol, and now it's gone!
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Clearance/Tops/Tripp-Black-Grommet-Chain-Corset-Vest-239256.jsp
hot topic probably placed it in the photo to make the model look more 'edgy'
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