Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Samsung: 9NnSWVS


"OK everyone, let's make sure we get that reflection right so we don't end up on that stupid Photoshop Disasters blog!"

Thanks to Brian! Original is here!

49 comments:

Andre said...

What's the big deal? Is it that the image on the screen is upside down?

My iPhone can do that.

Adoniram said...

@Andre - Uh... or, it's the fact that the entire PRODUCT is upside down.

Andre said...

Good point.

I don't find it that offensive though... it's pretty arbitrary orientation, considering the top of the phone is still above the bottom. It's just tilted to the right, not actually upside down. If they wanted the samsung to read correctly with the phone at the same angle, then the phone would've had to be actually upside down, with the top of it against the ground.

Frog said...

Um...I think the issue is that vinyl records DON'T MAKE reflections, they have too many grooves in them.

WF: pessup. replace the P with an M or the E with an I and it pretty much spells it out.

ΤΖΩΤΖΙΟΥ said...

I think they wanted to demonstrate that the device has an always-up display, and the easiest way (without video, just a plain photograph) would be to have the device upside-down while the displayed image was oriented correctly.

I believe it was intentional, even if the typical viewer's knee-jerk reaction would be "the idiots, they put the device upside-down! har har har".

Of course, there can be an actual disaster in the image which I missed.

Armitaj said...

@ Frog - I just tried out a vinyl record I happen to have by my desk (Revolver by The Beatles) and it reflects my mouse OK.

Frog said...

Ah, I guess I should clarify--they can make a kind of reflection, but not one as clear as that.

Also there are some weird spotty things on the disk near where the reflection is. Maybe those are the actual reflection, but it looks kindof like they erased the grooves then tried putting them back again.

nomonimo said...

I don't see anything wrong ... besides it is upside down but as @ΤΖΩΤΖΙΟΥ said, I think it was intentional.

Dino said...

Subtle but amusingly bad considering it was done for a big electronics company. Must have been done by one of those home schoolers!

famulous said...

Re: Vinyl records "don't make reflections."

Respectfully must point out that vinyl records are reflective. I have hundreds of them. I can see myself when I put them on the turntable. Promise.

Cafonauta said...

really I don't see anything bad here.

jambalie said...

i don't really care if it's technically a PSD, i just love the label "beware of geeks bearing gifs".

and intentional or not, putting your brand name upside down looks dumb.

anyway, if that is the point of the ad or not, why the turntable? to show samsung's music technology is more advanced than a device that became obsolete at least 10 years ago? (and don't blast me for that, i love me some lovely reflective vinyl)

Domitype said...

I am wondering if it is being dropped onto the turntable, resting on the tone arm and/or record (which would be tricky, especially if the turntable is moving,) floating in the air, or being held by an invisible hand?

FerrariGirlNr1 said...

I've googled the key features of the product and I found this:
"Accelerometer for screen auto rotate" so it is definitively NOT WRONG that the Image is upside down seen from the case label... And as an answer for the question, why however the label is upside down, I think the photoshop-designer thought that the speaker should not be on the side of the vinyl ;)
Concluded: everything okay with it!

ΤΖΩΤΖΙΟΥ said...

Since the blog is named "PhotoShop Disasters" and not "non-optimal product placement in an ad" (placement in both metaphorical and literal sense), can anyone suggest what the PSD is in this case? I give up: I can't find it.

Christopher said...

I think it's the fact that the angle of reflection is weird. If the phone is tilted like that, why is it's reflection coming straight at me?

Domitype said...

Christopher,
I think the main product reflection on the record is OK (brighten the image in PS a bit and it will be clearer,) however, is there some sort of vertical shadow dropping on the left side of the reflection?

There is a faint halo around the product - not too seamless... but if it was not a cut and paste, did they use gum to hold the device to the tone-arm?

The angle of the turntable in relationship to the mixing board is also a bit strange. I know some mixers have a tilted control panel, but this looks like they are on totally different planes.

Sumocat said...

What's the problem? Reflections are supposed to square off rounded edges, right?

Domitype said...

Sumocat,

I think the rectangular dark shape on the record is a shadow (real or otherwise) from the 2nd (blue) light source. The "actual" product reflection (close to the edge of the record) seems (to me, anyway) to be theoretically correct. It shows the bottom edge of the product and is much better than other examples of shopped reflections seen on this blog.

I am still having problems with the tone-arm. if the product is actually resting on it, it would not be horizontal. The lifting/cue support is down and it does not seem to be in the storage position either. (Many years of old fashion radio DJ experience showing..)

Waldobaby said...

"Respectfully must point out that vinyl records are reflective. I have hundreds of them. I can see myself when I put them on the turntable."

I give up. Someone please tell me what these vinyl records are and why do you put them in the microwave?

A said...

Yeah- "Accelerometer for screen auto rotate".
Sure, the lighting is a bit weird, but it's not a 'disaster' compared to most of the other posts . . .

The Sophisticate's Diary said...

Well done, Christopher; it only took 15 comments before someone spotted the glaringly obvious.
I salute you, Sir.

Ben said...

This is hardly a disaster, it's quite a subtle reflection and is not at a completely wrong angle. Do you not realise that the screen is angled upwards, away from the record, so there's no chance you'd ever see it in the reflection?

mohamed.attia said...
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mohamed.attia said...

really disaster
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Josin said...

[Obligatory home-schooling joke]

Andre said...

Yeah, I'm not normally one to jump on the "PsD fAiL" train. But if there's 26 comments already and there's no consensus as to what the "glaringly obvious" error is (especially considering the generally over-sensitive eyesight of PsD's constituents), I have to think that this isn't a disaster by any stretch of the imagination.

At best, it's a questionably designed but arguably valid presentation of a product. At worst it's a nitpick of a slightly screwed up reflection.

Martin said...

I'm quite convinced that this in fact is an actual photo - not a comp. Not a disaster I would say - but hey that's just my opinion.

Alex400 said...

The problem here is the angle of the reflection. Totally wrong.

The Sophisticate's Diary said...

OK, maybe not "glaringly" obvious, but that reflection angle does look very wrong. I'm more than happy to be proved incorrect though.

Rand McNatt said...

The problem is that the reflections on the DEVICE are wrong.

The thing is a portable DJ station with built-in turntables, which is the tie-in to the turntable in the picture.

Go to the "original here" link and check out the close-up.

Jeff said...

There's nothing wrong with the reflection. Try it. I just did.

Like Martin, I'm pretty well convinced that this is a fully composed photo. Nothing about it suggests otherwise. Yes, records do reflect, yes, the angle on the reflection is right, yes, it's perfectly possible to stick the phone to the arm (and it doesn't look comped in to me) and to just put a rolled up towel or something under one end of a portable mixing board so that it's resting at that admittedly unnatural angle.

It would, in fact, be much *easier* to do all that than to either take a bunch of separate shots and comp them together, or to go around looking for exactly the right stock photos and then trying to make them match.

People are looking for things that aren't there in this case, I'm afraid.

tim maguire said...

What's the point of this ad? That Samsung's phones have very sharp edges?

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The Sophisticate's Diary said...

I've looked at this picture, I've looked at the original, I've read the blurb on the original. I still have absolutely no idea what the fuck this thing is.

My record player doesn't have one of these things superglued to the tonearm and I'm convinced it's all the better for it.

Shit technology for shit people? Probably.

Mel said...

The caption is what made this one.

The Hyperlexian Aspie said...

the device is vertical, the reflection is horizontal.

can i have a goddamn prize? i never catch these things!

jakblood said...

Anybody else interested as to why the screen has a gradient on it and the rest of th phone doesen't?

Fletcher said...

Ok, what are the chances of the reflection looking like a perfect side view? Maybe the phone wasn't comped in, but the reflection definitely seems fishy, especially the blue glare that stops abruptly.

RaananW said...

Dear everyone,
the reflection is perfect. The composition is wonderful.
They also attached everything realy great.
But where the heck is the turntable?! there is an arm, there is a record, but.. No turntable!
It's not the reflection...

Domitype said...

RaananW - the typical pro turntable slopes down at the edge - you can see just a tiny bit of it over on the lower right side of the picture, because of the camera angle.

RaananW said...

Domitype - For me, it seems like the turntable is a composition of its three parts - the turning plate, the arm and the pitch control, but there is nothing that connects them all. Maybe it's the lighting, but i still think the base of the arm is in a funny angle. But, then again, maybe we are just trying to find something that doesn't exist in this picture. a Photoshop disaster.

Chata-dum-raio said...

It looks like the phone is playing something with 03:05 lenght and is curently in 01:35, but the progression bar is only at 1/4 from the beggining.
Or maybe I'm wrong...

Teresa said...

Well, if this is the type of "disaster" that home-schooled kids make, then I'm homeschooling my kids because now that I can compare, it appears public schooled kids are much more talented at making real disasters:-). This would probably also explain my Photoshop "skills". Hehe.

spitter said...

I SEE IT. They made sure the reflection was OK, but in doing so, they smoothed out the grooves of the record. Zoom in a little, you'll see the record is perfectly smooth there.

Jolene said...

Don't see any photoshop work here. But why would anyone to put their product, or even worst - want their product logo to be read upside down? Its just bad branding.

zzzdude said...

Audio by [insert musicians].
Why would that appear on the metal border? Since when did that become a "FEATURE"?

AnesGy said...

I have some of those old vinile disks and they do not reflect ligth like that. Not even when spining.

Michael said...

From the product description:

Key features:

* Accelerometer for screen auto rotate

This is 100% intentional, I don't understand why it is here at all.